Some unusual SEO experiments

[nick]

From past experiments on some domains I have concluded that this is going to be a lot tougher then I thought.

The problem is that when I developed one website and made 5000 incoming links for it. It shot up to Pagerank - 5.

For the other site I made 500 links all the links were on same page on which the other site had a link from. This also shot itself to Pagerank - 5.

Both have same template. Same content and structure.

Moreover the 500 links site is getting more traffic compared to the 5000 links one.

Other thing is that the 500 links site went to #2 position on search engines for the keyword and the 5000 links site remained on #97th position.

Don't know what else I will learn from this one. But I had been trying to catch one single point that might have boosted that 500 links site to the top.

 

[nielsencl]

I have a PR6 site, Mesothelioma-Search-Engine.com that has a PR6.
It gets very little traffic.

I have a PR2 site, bizprolink-internet.com that has a PR2.
It gets a LOT of traffic.

While PR is an indication of a site's "value", it does not indicate traffic from what I can tell.

While you say the sites have the same content and structure, there are also the domain names and hosting to consider. Is the hosting on the same IP?

I didn't quite understand this:

For the other site I made 500 links all the links were on same page on which the other site had a link from.

Can you explain a little more?

And how quickly did you get the 500 links and the 5000 links?

This is a great experiment, but it would help to have more details.

...I have concluded that this is going to be a lot tougher then I thought.

Why? Just follow the same techniques you have used on the 500 link site. The 5,000 link method seems to not be needed...

 

[RCRiver]

Nick,

From my very limited knowledge of SEO, I believe the site the link is on counts for a lot.

e.g. better to have 1 link from veryreputablesite.com than 500 from spamalot.com!

I think google calls the reputable sites "authority" sites.

Apologies if Im just telling you stuff you already know!

 

[nick]

Yes this is confusing. nielsencl and RCRiver I will try to provide as much info as possible.

While you say the sites have the same content and structure, there are also the domain names and hosting to consider. Is the hosting on the same IP?

Yes they are hosted on Same I.P.

Now some more explanations

I have Site A and Site B - Both same structure, Same Server.

For Site A - Made 5000 backlinks or more. Lets say I got links from Site 1, Site 2, Site 3....... and so on till Site 5000.

Now for Site B - Made 500 backlinks. Which were on the same pages where the previous links of my Site A were already there.

So it can be said. That Site B is having 500 links. and Site A is having those 500 links plus 4500 links extra.

And how quickly did you get the 500 links and the 5000 links?

In a month or so.

Why? Just follow the same techniques you have used on the 500 link site. The 5,000 link method seems to not be needed...

That is what I am trying to figure out that what I did something with that 500 links site that I didn't did for the 5000 links site. I am thinking from last 3 days but cannot come up with any single technique that I have done for one and not done for the another.

That is why I am in a fix here.

 

[Randall]

I have had sites that without doing any work are breaking the servers with traffic. On the other hand I also have sites that are breaking my nerves but not getting even an average traffic.

 

[nielsencl]

Well, it's very hard to know what is going on unless you have a very controled environment, which is difficult since there are many things you cannot control, and forces at work with are not known, or understood well.

From what you have said, which is limited, I would say that the difference in those 2 sites is the number of links that have been gained.

If you think of links in "natural" terms, I think it is reasonable that a site may gain 500 links, but that does seem like quite a few. But 5,000 links in a month seems excessive, that is, to anyone that is looking at such things it would be clear that some activity is directing the creating of those links.

If I was programming a search engine and ranking sites in part based on links, that is one of the things I would look for. I would not want to rank sites based on their ability to get links to their site, but how many sites feel it is good enough to link to. I would know ranges for "natural" linking, and if something went outside that range, I would discount it.

This is my opinion and not based on anything I have read, so what you are seeing could well be due to other factors, such as link quality.