How to get steady ranking?

[jignesh]

hello friends,
i m doing SEO work for on site and right now trying to get ranking on one keyword competition is 10crore appx,i was on 13 th rank yesterday and again fall to 21st rank today.i m facing this types of changes since last 15 days.i have done lots of dir sub arnd 500 .article sub arnd 300 and link exchange for that keyword.my domain is old,can u suggest me how to get steady ranking ? or what should i do?

thanks

-jignesh

 

[jayesh]

Change the strategy and start doing article submissions for it.

 

[jignesh]

i have done 300 article submission.and now i dont have more article sites.i have tried to get more articles sites but almost are repeat.

 

[jayesh]

Hummm.....

Social bookmarking?
Blog posts?

 

[jignesh]

no i have submitted articles in articles submission sites just like your site.

 

[jayesh]

Wow i found this forum itself in google when i searched for how should we get backlinks.

http://www.nameslot.com/How-should-we-get-backlinks-t-968.html

 

[nielsencl]

You may have done some of these...

1) Use an absolute link near the bottom of all of the pages of the site to the home page using the anchor text. (Use "http://www.domain.xyz/" and not "index.htm").

2) Add an absolute link on the header graphic of each page as listed above. Add ALT tag with the target text.

3) Add small banner button with link and a text link to the home pages of any and all sites you have, 1-2 sites a day. For each site, wait 3-7 days, then add the same links to all of the site pages.

4) Add some text links in the content of your other sites, to your target site. Add 1-2 a day and DON"T use the target text, use something else.

5) In some cases, try to vary the target text "10crore appx".

visit 10crore appx
10crore appx site
10crore appx contest
try 10crore appx
10crore appx entry
and also some things that do not use "10crore appx" so they links appear more "natural".

6) If the site is about more than just "10crore appx" I would submit it to as many places as possible. If it's just about the contest, then I would do this last because I delete every contest submission I get at my directories...

7) Put a link in your forum signature. Most forums show any change in the signature for ALL the posts you have made... so that can amount to a lot of links from each forum.

 

[jignesh]

Thanks nielsencl,
i will made some changes as u suggest me.and wait for some day.let us see what happen..

 

[nielsencl]

No problem. By the way, if you look at our main site, you may wonder if I know anything about SEO,since the home page is currently PR0!

Well, it was PR6 a couple months ago, after being PR0 for almost a year. To be honest, the site hasn't changed much over the past 8 years, and I've been too busy working on client sites to work on mine.

But today I decided to look at a couple of things, starting with seeing if there were errors on the site and I used the W3C Markup Validation Service and it didn't like my home page AT ALL!

So I worked on it for about an hour to clean up my DreamWeaver template that generates the site and any code that appears on each page. I checked each page one by one (Lucky I don't have too many) and fixed all the broken tags, missing quotes, invalid attributes, etc. and now all the pages pass!

I also generated some Google site maps (html, ROR, XML, txt) using XML-Sitemaps.com to indicate to Google that I am a good, caring webmaster. By the way, I hear that MSN and Yahoo also use the same sitemap files if they find them on a site, so I think we can assume it will work for all SE and DIR that use them.

I will try to let you know if this helps me some PR...!

 

[jignesh]

yes, you are right we couldn't find time for our sites while working for others or client. I have done some changes in my sites and waiting for cached the changes. all the best for your site.

 

[nick]

Moreover technically it is not possible to get a steady ranking in the search engines. Because as the SERP's keep moving and the index is updated on regular basis, the site always needs some attention from our side.

If the site is full of unique content and fancy tools which people would like to link to during their discussions on 1000's of community boards on the internet then most of our work is already done by the users themselves for link building of that site.

 

[jignesh]

Actually the site on which i m working it is there at my signature.i am facing this probs to get ranking for home page.u can see on home page i can have only short des of each products.i cant put more content on it.and it is online medication site so i dont have any attractive tool to put it on that site.i can make other SEO pages but for that i have to again do some link exchange and other SEO thing.but i think that if i will do the same work for home page than it will be batter.what is your suggestion??

 

[nick]

Your site is not having the unique content. You can even check the copyspace.com for it.

I would put some articles on the main page as well as create some extra pages inside and put more unique content on the site relevant to the site's theme.

It will give your site some more points then many others sites with same title and description of the medicines on the internet.

 

[nielsencl]

I took a quick look at the site, and while it's best to have unique content, I don't think that is hurting you much, since you have pretty good PR.

I don't like the home page optimization much, I would have more general title, description and keywords there and not mention products so much and save that for the product pages, which you have done. I would use more keywords about the main topic of the site and describe your weight loss product site.

Now, the titles on the product pages all start with the same word for the name of the site, and this is a waste in my opinion. I would either remove that or move it to the end of the titles.

Your description tags for the product pages (I looked at 3) are good, but then it appears that you are using the same keywords tag on each page:

<.TITLE>WeightWorld – Botanical Detox and slim to revatilise your whole body online in UK.</TITLE>

<.META NAME="description" CONTENT="Detox and slim is herbal and natural weight loss product, Botanical Detox and Slim with Camomile is a detoxification and weight loss program for inner cleansing of your body. Detox and slim is stimulate your digestive system in a natural, safe and effective way.">

<.META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="Hoodia, Hoodia tablets, Hoodia medicines, hoodia details, hoodia advise, weight loss hoodia, medicines, tablets">

Not only is this wrong for the page, but I have seen some signs where this is can hurt the pages and be seen as "duplicate content".

In my option, Google considers duplication in title, description, and keywords tags as a sign that the webmaster is "lazy" and pays less attention to the page, Even if the the page content is fairly unique.

I ran a site scan on your site and it said there were a lot of errors. Some of these are not correct, but a number of them are and I think you will want to go through the report and fix the ones that really are errors. You can see the report here: http://www.dp8.net/weightworld/.

Also, I found some CSS files that were not CSS files but had a message in them that said they were there for "SEO Purposes"??? I don't know of any reason you would do this, and I would advise against it. Still, if it works and you want to take a risk with it that is your decision.

I do think it's best to NOT change too many things at once. That way you can make some changes and wait a while to see what the results are. If you change too many things, then you won't know for sure which one helped or hurt the site. A way to test what you are doing is to make a change to one page or a section of the site and see what happens. Those with a number of sites can make different changes to different sites and see what happens.

One last thing, I see you have an XML sitemap which is great. But it indicates that your site is changing every day. If this is not true I would change it to reflect the average rate of change.

 

[jignesh]

Thank you very much,
i m agree with your and realy i was thinking some of things as u write in your post.but i was not confident enought to aplly those changes.i have done some changes in my home page's title and des and waiting for cached the changes.still there is some desidn work going on for this sites.so i will have a new fresh design soon,so some of probs will be solved.and than i will start changes in product pages.realy thank for your advise and i can see that u had to spend lots of time to study the site.thaks for that.

 

[proxy]

so this means if my site is PR 3 now. then in future it will not remain PR 3?

will its pagerank decrease as the time goes?

 

[jignesh]

see if u will not maintain your backlinks than your pr may decrease in next updates.some cases it may happen.