Submitting to search engines

[Lee]

How old does your website has to be before submitting it to a search engine?

 

[Randall]

It doesn't matters how old it should be.

But most of my sites have never been submitted to search engines. I just start out with the link building campaign for it. And the search engine crawlers pick it up.

 

[nielsencl]

Most of the larger search engines do crawl and if they find any links to your site will visit and index it. For a new site you can submit it and speed up the process a little, but it's generally not needed. Even without links they seem to get indexed fairly well. I suspect they are getting lists of sites from nameservers and picking them up that way and I think Google has been hitting almost all of the IP space to see what's hosted there. That doesn't help sites on shared IPs, but they do get picked up anyway.

There are search engines that don't spider just like most directories also don't spider. You must submit to them in order to get listed. Most are small, but some like www.SplatSearch.com have been around for years and sends traffic to my sites, even though most people have never heard of it.

 

[pranavbhat]

that makes me ask a question to both nameslot as well as nielsencl, does ageing of the stie have any impact on search engines!!
I just started a blog on linux and open source and this is my first experiance in websites(ofcourse other than my personal homepage) and therefore wanted to know...after approx how much time will i finally will get a pagerank!!

Please advice!!
Cheers!

 

[nielsencl]

I think that Age of the domain and the age of the same site on the domain does make a difference. How much is hard to say.

Your blog does have PR, it's just zero at this time. That's good because it means your site has been spidered and indezed and Google just needs to decide how "good" your site is. Depending on a lot of factors, you can expect to see a PR of 1 to 3 in 60 to 180 days.

My company domain was registered a long time ago and I have quite a few links, yet I only have a PR0. I still get traffic so I don't worry about it. The funny thing is that I did have a PR6 about 7-8 months ago for a while.

PR is interesting, but not important. If you don't check your web traffic reports, you should. That's the best indication of how your site is doing.

 

[pranavbhat]

hi nielsencl,
thanks for the reply!!
I do look at the traffic logs, but unfortunately most of the traffic on my webpages are of googlebot,MSNbot or yahoo slurp; or the traffic that is generated which i use to update the website!!
There arent just any visitors for real, and not that i am not targeting good keywords, i mean the keywords i use are very in relating to open source and linux, so just cant figure out why isnt there any traffic!!
Moreover, i rely only on adsense as a revenue generator and the traffic if at all any real users; dont seem to click on any of the ads; the CTR is below par!!
I mean to give you some numbers i have received 9000 odd hits so far and out of them there hasnt been any single adsense hit!!

Also please tell me do unique visitors matter or number of hits matter??

Sorry i am bothering you with a lot of questions,but i am new to this!!
So,please answer them if possible!!

Thanks in adv.
Cheers!!

 

[nielsencl]

Well, it seems your domain was registered in January, but your first post are dated April 29th, so it's only been up for about a week!

Depending how how much submission or other promotion work you have done, this is expected. One week is nothing. If you get a few links, do a few submissions, and keep adding content you can expect on starting to see some "real" visitors in 1-3 weeks I think.

It takes time and you have to remember their and millions and millions of blogs out there all looking for traffic.

We you selling that blog or did you just buy it?

"Hits" are what we call any request for any file from a web site. I visit to a page with 4 images with result in a total of 5 "hits". Unique users are the number of actual people that visit your site, and they may make more than one "visit" or "session".

The numbers reported are close, but not exact. One visitor from AOL or another system that uses proxy servers (out-going) can show up as several "visitors" becuase the hit requests can go through a number of different proxy servers. The web stats just give you a pretty good idea of what is going on with your site.

 

[pranavbhat]

oh,okk!!

So, i just need to add posts and update the content and things will happen!!
Oh, thanks a lot!!
Will try this out and also will do all the SEO work as i have read it in these forums and on the internet and then lets see how this works;will surely let you know but thanks man...thanks a zillion....!!

 

[nielsencl]

Yes, but I do recommend that you also work on submitting your site, at least to blog search engines. We have a submission list at www.bfsel.com and category #10 is for blogs.

For SEO, the most important things are doing the keyword research (www.goodkeywords.com) and good basic optimization, which you will be limited on with a blog.